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Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Best tutorial EVER !
I was waiting for this kind of soft for sooooooooooo long O_O !!
Thanks Creative <333 |
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Hi,
someone would have to try it out (but you probably need a HL/CS version 1.6 or later). That depends on how the "non-steam" thing works and form which CS 1.6 version it has been made.
If the -demoedit command doesn't work for this version, you can also try typing dem_edit into the console (the CS Beta changelog in January 2003 shown in the video mentioned that they replaced the dem_edit console command by -demoedit).
DemoEdit works by the way probably with all Half-Life (1) based games / mods.
Also it would be interesting to know if such a editor is also in Source, I will ask a clanmate a clanmate that owns source to test if there is similar command (but if someone of you guys owns Source then let us know 
If there are any questions regarding this tutorial just post theme here into the comments. I will try to answer them to my best knowledge.
Also if you have found out s.th. new, write an article / make a tutorial or post it into the comments and let the community know, because there is so realy much yet to discover with Half-Life Demoedit!
And get started making nice movies folks!!  |
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hi , thanks for sharing knowledge.i have some problemes and i am not sure its cauz demo lag or of campath..I have some freezes at the moment of campaths are switching between them and its ugly :s
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hi,
#7 Faestro: you might want to have a look using the -demoedit launchoption and the viewdemo command at the cbble.dem that is included in the rar file (it contains all the changes that I have made to do the scences in the movie (you can save back the changes to the Demo you have made by simply using the Save button)).
Let Half-Life complete the loading of the HLTV demo then the FPS will get better and there will be a message in the console telling the loadign has completed:
"Demo file completely loaded. Disconnected. Automatic connection retry"
This might take one to two minutes or so.
The scene I'll be talking about is located shortly after 23:30, so use the slider to jump to it.
Make sure you have Autodirector and Freelookmode enabled:
Screenshot: http://home.arcor.de/matrixstorm/files/cstrike/hlcs_campath/7_0001.jpg
there you will see a series of CAMPATHs:
Screenshot: http://home.arcor.de/matrixstorm/files/cstrike/hlcs_campath/7_0002.jpg
You will notice that all CAMPATH have set their flags to 0 except the two that have set it to 1, since the whole scene has been splited into two campath series.
Also notice that there are no other events between the CAMPATH events (I have removed them).
Now lets take a look at the split (selecting the camevents and using the modify button):
Screenshot: http://home.arcor.de/matrixstorm/files/cstrike/hlcs_campath/7_0003.jpg
You will notice, that the time and camera position and angle (nearly) are the same. I have done this by jumping to the Campath (click on the event and use the GOTO button) where I needed to cut (since the scene would have to many waypoints otherwise (if this happens there is a console message)). Then I clicked add and selectect Campath event and clicked GetView and Gettime. This produced two Campath events that were the same but both had flags zero. So i selected the lower one of the two and made it's flag to 1 to tell Half-Life this would be a new campath. You can see all this on the 3rd screenshot.
This still results in one (but only one) wrong frame for me. (If you are quick you can notice that at the begining in the movie. when the scene is shown the second time I have cuten this single frame out of the movie). |
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#6 I heard of "smooth" in CS : Source that would make better travellings than Half Life Demoedit
But I think there isn't such a software for CS 1.6 
It's a pity but let's make something good in this way 
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| | #10 - 2007-01-03 07:04:10 | |
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Hi
#9 DrAgOn-_ thanks for sharing the info with us, because this actually allowed to find s.th. usefull in using a wellknown searchengine:
So this is for all people that want to do SOURCE MOVIES:
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Demo_Recording_Tools
(This is a post in Valve's developer wiki seems to be there since November 2006).
This is NOT for Half-Life 1 / 1.6 Movies since these tools are not there!
However they have nothing for Half-Life 1 and mods / Counter-Strike 1.6 (also that it exists and how to activate it is nowhere mentioned), so I guess we are stuck with the -demoedit that is covered by this tutorial, but it also let's us do rather crazy stuff that wasn't thought that it could be done in 1.6 before!
So it is good to have the -demoedit tutorial since the majority of Movies is still done in Counter-Strike 1.6 |
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| | #11 - 2007-01-03 11:41:03 | |
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Thanks ripieces.I tried on another demo and it works fine.I did a little startmovie easly and fastly!!
The lag i was talking about is probably due to hltv.But a remark :
Waypoints must be very detailed otherwise u have wall crossing and it's ugly.Little avi for pleasure and showing this buty of tool.(there are some crap moments with errors from my part) :
http://morslawii.free.fr/fastero/ |
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| | #12 - 2007-01-03 07:33:41 | |
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wow really nice and useful discovery dude...
this is really interesting, weird i've never heard of it=)
really detailed tutorial! thanks alot |
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| | #13 - 2007-01-03 12:11:20 | |
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| thanks a lot dudes, yeah source has options like 3ds lol source has awsome player i wish cs 1,6 had this bastards of halflife they can do great things for cs 1,6 but they just leave it like it is |
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| | #14 - 2007-01-03 14:49:10 | |
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What does this FOV stuff do (I suppose you mean the camera event)?
btw. Dragon(?) asked on IRC how to do it if you don't have the spectator HUD because you have removed it with sprites:
If auto director seems to be not enabled (no auto switching) then enter
spec_autodirector
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To activate Free Look mode enter
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| What about working at no-steam cs version, does it? |
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| | #17 - 2007-01-03 16:58:05 | |
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No one told us if it works or not yet.
If this version is before January 2003 then you probably will have to use the console command dem_edit instead, see Comment #6 |
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| | #18 - 2007-01-04 23:25:01 | |
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Just for the comments about fov here's a quick chart I did up showing the usable fov ranges within the hl engine:
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/fov%20chart.jpg
Here is some screenshots I took showing the fov and some of the mirv features at work, the future for gaming movies deffinately looks promicing:
#1 de_nuke, very wide FOV, mild depth of field effect
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/de_nuke0003_dof.jpg
#2 de_inferno, fov 55, mild depth of field effect
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/de_inferno0019.jpg
#3 de_inferno, fov 55, no dof
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/de_inferno0018.jpg
#3 de_nuke, fov 110, no dof
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/de_nuke0001.jpg |
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| | #19 - 2007-01-05 05:25:10 | |
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| Those screenshots look awesome |
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| | #20 - 2007-01-05 05:45:13 | |
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| Hi folks, just wanted to say thank you for sharing that great wisdom. I've been looking for a long time for a way to create reproducable, edtior-based camera movements. I did a CS movie called "A Gamer's Day" and right now I'm working on its sequel for german cinema release, and these possibilities are awesome, adding new ways of storytelling. Thanks again. |
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| | #21 - 2007-01-05 09:43:10 | |
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I am back here again and i decided to post a piece of my current project and i used campath trick.Thanks ripieces again !!
http://morslawii.free.fr/fastero/lol.avi
It's short but promissing  |
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| | #22 - 2007-01-05 10:12:10 | |
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| very nice fastero keep workn |
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| | #23 - 2007-01-05 11:24:31 | |
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#20 Daniel P. Schenk: I wish you the best luck and success possible for your sequel and many many viewers!
#21 Fastero: The turns are fiting rather good to the music, although they might make some people dizzy when watched in full screen %-) |
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| | #24 - 2007-01-05 11:52:13 | |
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i've tryed it out, and it works as on steam as on no-steam version of Counter Strike 1.6!
ripieces, thanks a lot! |
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| | #25 - 2007-01-05 11:54:08 | |
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Hi Daniel,
Nice to have you on site, hope to see you around in future aswell.
Good luck with your sequel :=) |
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| | #26 - 2007-01-05 17:33:02 | |
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| Thanks all of you for your wishes I hope to get that thing rolling. Again, a big thank you for the tutorial! |
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| | #27 - 2007-01-05 17:40:23 | |
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| good tutorial, props to mole2k for that chart too <3 |
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| mole2k, how did you add "depth-of-field effect" to clips? |
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| | #29 - 2007-01-12 15:52:52 | |
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take a closer look at post #8, screen 3
also you might want to take a look at the other events that can be selected too |
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| | #30 - 2007-01-12 16:04:22 | |
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| Link please ? |
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I am sorry, I read FOV.
The depth effect is done using the MIRV Demo tool.
http://www.madabouthats.org/projects/mdt
The MIRV tool is technically a cheat. (So you are using it at your own risk).
If you want to find out more about MIRV read the site or ask people that have used it |
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| | #32 - 2007-01-15 21:52:14 | |
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thanks for yout insight!
btw this campath can't seem to work for some mod like TFC |
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| AHH! finally!!! something usefull!!!!!!!! |
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#32 I am currently trying to get it to work with TeamFortressClassic, but I have also issues. It seems as if the TFC Mod was compiled with an outdated Half-Life 1 SDK version, that did not contain HLTV Director Module support for the CAMEVENTs yet (developer 2 will show errormessages regarding missing director commands 14 and 15).
However if you know the Movie "APM - The Lastdinosaur 2": you should be able to do such a movie using the MIRV Tool (and the bloom tool from the same author).
Also you might want to try if you can get the CAMERA event to track objects in TFC (see the forum thread for more info about this).
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Btw guys if you find out s.th. or have questions that are not directly releated to CAMPATH there is now link to a forum thread (bellow the download links) in this tutorial |
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| has anyone had any luck getting this to work with tfc? ive tried it with cs demos and it is just a great tool. really wish it worked for tfc ! |
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| currently post #18 in the forum thread links a (bad) fix that should enable it for TeamFortressClassic. |
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| | #37 - 2007-02-19 16:53:13 | |
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And here is the forum thread just incase you missed that:
http://cm.cdhoom.com/?p=forum&category=15&post=291 |
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| it works fine with non-steam cs 1.6. its a bit time-taking though to get the perfect angles and smoothness in the movement of cams, especially when you wanna avoid going thru a wall or a train,etc. but seems all worth it. |
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| | #39 - 2007-02-20 05:27:58 | |
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| hehe yeah we could use a demosmoother like source has : D |
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| | #40 - 2007-02-24 15:41:15 | |
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| hallo ich habe ein proble wie mach ich das ,dass sich die kamera auch bewegt bei mir sind jetzt nur positionen die ich da angegebn habe ich dachte sie würde dahin fliegen ( gleiten) was mach ich falsch bitte hilft mir |
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| benio90 wrote hello I have a problem: how do I manage to get also the camera moving, for me there are only the positions that I have entered, I thought it would fly to them (glide), what am I doing wrong, please help me. |
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Hallo, ich nehme mal an, dass Du Counter-Strike 1.6 meinst:
Bitte stelle immer folgendes sicher:
1. Der erste CAMPATH hat Flags auf 1, alle nachfolgenden einer Serie haben Flags auf 0.
2. Zwischen den CAMPATHs eine Serie duerfen sich keine anderen Events mehr befinden.
3. Du musst im Free-Look Modus (freies Bewegen) sein und der AutoDirector muss aktiviert sein.
4. Du musst die Demo bereits einige Sekunden vor dem ersten CAMPATH Event abspielen / starten und mit ResumeGame (Spiel fortsetzen) oder ESC zurueck ins Spiel gehen, sonst wird die Bewegung nicht abgespielt
5. In einer CAMPATH Serie duerfen nur maximal 14-20 CAMPATHs / Wegpunkte sein.
Versuch am besten erstmal die cbble.dem die bei dem Tutorial in der RAR-datei mit dabei ist zum laufen zu bekommen, die Hauptszene befindet sich nahe bei 23:30:00.
Gib auch mal developer 2 in die Konsole ein, manchmal kommen hilfreiche Fehlermeldungen.
Vielleicht findest Du auch was brauchbares in den deutschen Kommentaren auf Planet-Videos.com: http://planet-movies.com/index.php?7945#122460
Wenn Du Englisch kannst, lies auch mal in dem Forumthread, der zum Tutorial gehoert:
http://cm.cdhoom.com/index.php?p=forum&category=2&post=291#2_2
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English / Englisch:
Hello, I asume that you mean Counter-Strike 1.6:
Please always ensure the following:
1. The first CAMPATH has set Flags to 1, all following of a series have set Flags to 0.
2. There must not be any other events left between the CAMPATHs of a series.
3. You have to be in Free-Look mode (free Movement) and AutoDirector must be enabled.
4. You have to play/start the demp already some seconds before the first CAMPATH event and go back into the game with ResumeGame (continue game) or ESC, otherwise the Movement will not be played
5. In one CAMPATH sereies there may be only a maximum of 14-20 CAMPATHs / waypoints.
May be try to get the cbble.dem working first that is supplied with the tutorial in the RAR file, the main scene is located near 23:30:00.
Also enter developer 2 in the console, sometimes there are helpfull error messages.
May be you find s.th. usefull in the German comments at Planet-Videos.com: http://planet-movies.com/index.php?7945#122460
If you speak English, then eventually also read the forum thread, that is bellonging to the tutorial:
http://cm.cdhoom.com/index.php?p=forum&category=2&post=291#2_2 |
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Hey there!
Awesome job on the tutorial, I've been beating my brain to death trying to figure out how they got the free look playdemo to work.
I went so far as trying to use HLTV to playback a demo, connect to the HLTV server and then record another demo while moving through the map... This is much easier and more practical.
But I seem to have a small problem.
After I use CAMPATH, all the players models get switched, like ct's become t's and vice versa. But once we switch over at half, everything returns to normal.
Any tips on how to prevent this or correct the error?
Thanks and keep up the stellar work.
[EDIT]Ten minutes after posting...
God I do this every time, I just went through the FAQ and found the solution to my problem.
Thanks and sorry! |
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| | #45 - 2007-03-17 17:56:37 | |
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Thats awesome : )
Thx ripieces , important discovery It helps a lot , and can bring some cool feeling/effects in a movie I will practice it and than use it in my next movie : )
Creative Movies is growing up ! ^^ |
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thank you all for the feedback, but the credit goes to Valve (may be Martin Otten, I don't know who coded it) for implementing this thing.
If anyone wants to redo the tutoiral, I realy encourage you to do so, because I am not satisfied with the one I did. And let us know about it, so that C-M can link your work here
If you need any information or material from the original movie to do that, just let me know.
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| | #48 - 2007-04-02 06:06:23 | |
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| great tutorial, thx ripieces! |
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| Note: to avoid problems with stuttering / lagging campaths type cl_fixtimerate 0 into your console / put it into your moviemaking.cfg config file. |
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| | #54 - 2007-05-19 21:57:28 | |
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can u do the auto_director with a console command???
cuz i wanna do full screen but it has hltv bars on it? =( |
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| | #55 - 2007-05-19 23:34:55 | |
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yes of course
(cite from Q: 2.2.1.: )
- make sure you have autodirector enabled (use GUI or the spec_autodirector console command toggle)
- make sure you are in FreeLook mode (use the GUI or the spec_mode 3 console command)
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pay attention that spec_autodirector is a _toggle_ meaning typing it once switches autodirector on (if it was off before) or off (if it was on before).
the spec_mode 3 is for CS 1.6, if you produce movies in other mods the number might be different
You can do everything that you can do within the spec GUI also by using the console.
PS: If you produce Team Fortress Classic (TFC) movies, then stay tuned for a C-M news coming up (hopefully) soon (this year). |
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woohoo, thx at Mirvin_Monkey:
CAMPATH Camera Paths using DemoEdit + MDT for Team Fortress Classic!:
http://cm.cdhoom.com/index.php?p=news&action=full&id=144#tfcusers |
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| | #57 - 2007-07-31 09:28:24 | |
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Hello,
since I'll only visit this tutorial page occasionally from now on please either PM me or stick to the MovieWiki or forum thread linked in the tutorial text above if you have questions or problems.
Thank you.
With kind regards
[HHG]R.I.Pieces<Dominik> |
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| | #58 - 2007-10-24 09:45:49 | |
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that tutorial
is very confusing :[ |
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| | #59 - 2007-11-12 14:11:40 | |
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| If you have questions left don't hesitate to post into the thread linked in the tutorial's description |
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| | #60 - 2007-12-30 06:30:18 | |
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| don't work, i try and the cam are stopped =[ |
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| | #61 - 2008-01-02 14:26:59 | |
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Please check this Wiki entry:
http://planet-movies.com/wiki/doku.php/en/games/half-life/demoedit#camera_doesn_t_start_moving
ripieces wrote Hello,
since I'll only visit this tutorial page occasionally from now on please either PM me or stick to the MovieWiki or forum thread linked in the tutorial text above if you have questions or problems.
Thank you.
With kind regards
[HHG]R.I.Pieces<Dominik> |
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| | #62 - 2008-01-03 05:54:28 | |
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| This is niiice Thank you!! <3 |
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| | #63 - 2008-01-19 12:15:37 | |
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how do you get this effect?
http://www.mole2k.co.uk/cm/de_inferno0019.jpg
Im trying with mirv and im completely lost if someone could help me please!! |
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| | #64 - 2008-01-19 14:34:06 | |
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You can use Mirv's depthdump to blur things that are not in focus.
Here is a good tutorial for After Effects:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/kramer_andrew/dof.php
You can use MDT's detphdump instead of the layer he uses, you also don't need to precompose the depthdump layer in AE, since the data is directly from the file.
http://www.hhg-clan.de/hlae/wiki/index.php?title=Mirv_movie_depthdump
If you have questions PM me or use the forum. This tutorial is not bout MDT / Mirv ; )
ripieces wrote Hello,
since I'll only visit this tutorial page occasionally from now on please either PM me or stick to the MovieWiki or forum thread linked in the tutorial text above if you have questions or problems.
Thank you.
With kind regards
[HHG]R.I.Pieces<Dominik> |
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| | #65 - 2008-07-16 03:57:50 | |
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nice tutorial  , thanks a lot |
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| | #66 - 2009-06-09 00:35:08 | |
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Sorry that I might double-post/ask something which has been asked before but I couldn't bother reading all of the questions.
So, what if I have a normal demo and I'm using HLAE to get it in to HLTV-demo, how can I make the campaths then? I tried it with HLAE on, and it didn't seem to work, I set the campaths and stuff, but nothing happened.
Please answer asap! Thanks in advance!
~ j0nttuh. |
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| | #67 - 2009-06-23 02:24:17 | |
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First you should make a backup of your demo, so it won't get messed up.
Then you can set that demo to be treated as an HLTV demo using dem_forcehltv 1, HLAE might come in handy here due to the HLTV fix.
The campath should work then as u know it from HTLVs.
Of course don't expect to have a true HLTV demo then, you will notice many data about players not in sight will be missing.
ripieces wrote Hello,
since I'll only visit this tutorial page occasionally from now on please either PM me or stick to the MovieWiki or forum thread linked in the tutorial text above if you have questions or problems.
Thank you.
With kind regards
[HHG]R.I.Pieces<Dominik> |
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| | #68 - 2009-08-27 06:19:12 | |
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| Hi please help me, everything is okay but if I want another viewpoint (for example : heels over head) What I must do ??...cfg file or ??? ....sorry for eng. |
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| Hello , i have one question why i dont have this three buttons Master , Events , Save can someone tell me ? |
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